Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/23/1993 01:00 PM House JUD

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  SB 173  GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE FOR SMALL EMPLOYERS                           
                                                                               
  Number 061                                                                   
                                                                               
  SEN. STEVE RIEGER, PRIME SPONSOR OF SB 173, explained that                   
  the bill had passed the Senate by a vote of 19-1.  The                       
  purpose of the bill, he said, was to increase the                            
  availability of health insurance to small employers.  Senate                 
  Bill 173 would set up a reinsurance mechanism through which                  
  small employers' insurance plans would be pooled, thereby                    
  taking on characteristics of a single, larger insurance                      
  pool.  Every insurance company offering small business                       
  insurance in Alaska would participate in the reinsurance                     
  pool, he added.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 116                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER asked, if an employer did not have insurance                 
  coverage, could he or she participate as a member of a group                 
  of individuals that did have coverage?                                       
                                                                               
  Number 124                                                                   
                                                                               
  SEN. RIEGER explained that coverage could not be denied to                   
  any individual.  He stated that a person would work through                  
  a private insurance company, which would offer a person the                  
  small group health insurance plan.  The policy would be                      
  underwritten and the person assigned a "risk rating," he                     
  said.  He noted that the procedure included in SB 173 was                    
  similar to the way that insurance now worked, except that                    
  the bill included a reinsurance mechanism, in case there                     
  were some high-risk individuals.  He said that SB 173 would                  
  avoid the problem of entire groups of employees being denied                 
  insurance coverage because of one high-risk individual                       
  within that group.  It would also avoid a situation in which                 
  the one high-risk person was denied coverage.                                
                                                                               
  Number 144                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON commented that the sponsor had emphasized the                  
  "pro-business" aspects of SB 173.  He asked if the bill                      
  could also be characterized as "pro-worker."                                 
                                                                               
  Number 151                                                                   
                                                                               
  SEN. RIEGER replied that SB 173 would be considered a "pro-                  
  worker" bill, as it was the individual employees who needed                  
  the insurance coverage.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 166                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAMIE PARSONS, representing the ALASKA STATE CHAMBER OF                      
  COMMERCE (ASCC), testified in support of SB 173 because it                   
  offered an avenue for small business owners to provide                       
  health insurance coverage for their employees.  He said that                 
  ASCC endorsed the bill because it guaranteed availability of                 
  insurance coverage for all employees in a group, regardless                  
  of individual health risks.  Also, he said, it guaranteed                    
  renewability of coverage, regardless of cases of health                      
  deterioration and number and size of previously submitted                    
  claims.  Senate Bill 173 allowed for continuity of coverage,                 
  so that individuals who initially satisfied a plan's                         
  preexisting conditional restrictions would not be faced with                 
  meeting those restrictions again if they changed jobs or the                 
  employer changed insurance companies.  Mr. Parsons also                      
  indicated ASCC's support for SB 173's rate limitations,                      
  stability, and predictability.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 196                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAY FRANK, representing STATE FARM and ALLSTATE insurance                    
  companies, testified in support of SB 173.  He said that the                 
  bill was based on model legislation, as adopted by the                       
  National Association of Insurance Commissioners.  He stated                  
  that the bill would not solve all the problems with health                   
  insurance, but attempted to address availability problems                    
  that small employers faced.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 216                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. GREEN asked if SB 173 was similar to an "assigned risk"                 
  system.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 224                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. FRANK responded that SB 173 was similar to "assigned                     
  risk" in that an insurance company that provided coverage to                 
  small employers could not refuse to provide coverage to any                  
  group of employees.  He said that SB 173 would work because                  
  every company in the business of writing insurance policies                  
  for small employers would have to play by the same rules.                    
  In the past, he said, companies would exclude high-risk                      
  individuals, or entire groups which contained one or more                    
  high-risk individuals.  He noted that SB 173 was also                        
  similar to "assigned risk" in that coverage would be made                    
  available to everyone.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 246                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. GREEN asked if premiums would vary under SB 173's                       
  provisions.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 255                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. FRANK commented that premiums would be set by the                        
  individual insurance companies.  He said that SB 173 would                   
  set up a state authority which would determine baseline                      
  coverages.  Once those coverages were determined, he added,                  
  companies would set rates for the different types of                         
  coverage.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 269                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. GREEN asked if insurance companies could charge                         
  different premium rates, and then employers could choose                     
  with which insurance company to do business.                                 
                                                                               
  MR. FRANK said that Rep. Green was correct.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 281                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT asked if the state authority would establish a                     
  base rate, which could then be adjusted according to                         
  preexisting conditions or other criteria.  He asked if the                   
  rates would be established according to type of business, or                 
  if not, according to what criteria.                                          
                                                                               
  MR. FRANK stated that rates would vary according to the type                 
  of business requesting coverage.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 304                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT asked if individuals within the same occupation                    
  would be rated differently, or if they would all be assessed                 
  the same premium.                                                            
                                                                               
  MR. FRANK replied that individuals working in the same                       
  occupation might be rated differently, due to preexisting                    
  medical conditions.  Similarly, he said, persons with the                    
  same preexisting medical conditions, but working in                          
  different occupations, would be rated differently.                           
                                                                               
  Number 329                                                                   
                                                                               
  GORDON EVANS, representing the HEALTH INSURANCE ASSOCIATION                  
  OF AMERICA, said that no base rate would be set.  The state                  
  authority would establish "basic" and "standard" plans and                   
  outline what would be covered under each of those plans.                     
  Insurance companies would then set rates for each type of                    
  plan, he added.  Employers could then choose to do business                  
  with any insurance company which offered the coverage.  He                   
  noted that premiums for all individuals within an employer's                 
  group would be the same.                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. EVANS commented that if there was a high-risk individual                 
  within a group, the insurance company would decide whether                   
  it was going to make use of the reinsurance provisions of SB
  173.  He said that if a primary insurer, one that wrote                      
  policies, felt that it could not insure a high-risk                          
  individual using its own reserves, then that individual                      
  could be reinsured, after the primary insurer paid the first                 
  $5,000 in claims.  He noted that SB 173 allowed insurance                    
  companies to accept a greater variety of risks.                              
                                                                               
  MR. EVANS said that SB 173 would have no fiscal impact on                    
  the state budget and would "sunset" after five years, unless                 
  the legislature chose to renew the program.  He stated that                  
  a similar bill had nearly passed the legislature last year.                  
  Twenty-four other states had already enacted laws like SB
  173, he said.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 395                                                                   
                                                                               
  RESA JERREL, representing the NATIONAL FEDERATION OF                         
  INDEPENDENT BUSINESS (NFIB), testified in support of SB 173                  
  and called the members' attention to a written position                      
  paper which was included in their bill packets.                              
                                                                               
  Number 406                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NORDLUND indicated his support for SB 173.  He asked                    
  Ms. Jerrel if she thought that the bill would encourage more                 
  small businesses to offer health insurance to their                          
  employees.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 415                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. JERREL commented that two years ago she had put a                        
  question on the NFIB ballot regarding whether the state                      
  should institute an insurance pooling plan.  She stated that                 
  76% of respondents indicated their support for such a                        
  program.  Of those 76%, she added, 50% said that they would                  
  participate in such a program.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 425                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NORDLUND repeated his question regarding whether or not                 
  SB 173 would encourage small employers to provide health                     
  insurance coverage to their employees.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 431                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. JERREL replied that she thought that SB 173 would                        
  encourage small employers to provide coverage to their                       
  employees.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 440                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER PAUL FUHS, from the DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND                  
  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED), indicated the department's                      
  strong support for SB 173, saying that it would help both                    
  employees and small business owners.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 449                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT asked Comm. Fuhs how many small businesses in                      
  Alaska employed full-time employees, as defined in SB 173.                   
                                                                               
  Number 454                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMM. FUHS replied that he did not know the answer to Rep.                   
  Kott's question.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 457                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. GREEN asked Comm. Fuhs if SB 173 would have any effect                  
  on the percentage of the health insurance premium paid by                    
  the employer versus the percentage paid by the employee.                     
                                                                               
  Number 463                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMM. FUHS responded that the bill would have no effect on                   
  who paid the premiums.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 470                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BETTYE DAVIS, SPONSOR OF THE HOUSE COMPANION BILL TO                    
  SB 173 (HB 12), was invited to address the committee.  She                   
  stated that she would be glad to defer the opportunity to                    
  testify, so long as the committee was willing to move SB 173                 
  out of committee.                                                            
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER declared that Rep. Davis had a deal.                         
                                                                               
  Number 498                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES made a motion to move CSSB 173(FIN) out of                        
  committee with individual recommendations, and a zero fiscal                 
  note.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 503                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT indicated his support for SB 173.  He said that,                   
  after a trial period, the program should be reevaluated and                  
  perhaps broadened.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 513                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES stated that, as an accountant and tax preparer                    
  for small businesses and a small business owner herself, she                 
  supported the bill.                                                          
                                                                               
  There being no objection to moving SB 173 out of committee,                  
  it was so ordered.                                                           

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